June 15, 2006
The estimate here says:
Based on the outcomes of the last amnesty in 1986, we expect that nearly 10 million illegal aliens will receive amnesty under the Hagel-Martinez bill. That is, they will legalize and eventually apply for permanent residence and be eligible for citizenship. As in 1986, we also expect that one-fourth (2.6 million) will get amnesty fraudulently. The bill will also allow an estimated 4.5 million family members of illegal aliens to join their legalized relatives, for a total of 14.4 million beneficiaries. These estimates do not include the very large increases in future legal immigration in the bill.
And, they also don't include all the new illegal aliens who'll come here to take part in future amnesties.
Posted to Immigration at June 15, 2006 11:50 AM
Comments
the real reason is to kill the good ideals of a nation and make us all into a place of total enslavement, the funny thing is as soon as we disappear the mexican will have to watch 100 MILLION Chinese coming here within 20 years and the mexican oligarchies will have fun with the ideals of Red China because most of what is happening is on behelf of red china and other's, the show you are watching will someday be a show of mass murder; by one side or the other, so have funn for now!
oh yes, "forget about any kind of security in old age", "forget about the justice system", and ideals of human rights! that will soon be part of history like the ideals of the bill of rights.
Posted by: Fred Dawes at June 15, 2006 01:59 PM
The Senate bill is pathetic and weak. They should all be ashamed of themselves. The House bill actually has some teeth. Pass and enforce the House bill and we may, may fix the problem.
Posted by: PoliticalCritic at June 15, 2006 02:48 PM
Always consider the source of your information.
People on the right should not hyperventillate because of the bill.Many independent attorneys and immigration experts who have actually examined the bill estimate that, as the bill is currently written, only a small fraction of the illegals would actually eventually qualify for green cards. This is because of a few factors:
1. Snapshot illegal presence: They have to show that they were illegally present on only one particular day. Many current illegals would have been legal as of that date.
2. Continuous presence: many illegals who would have qualified would not meet the requirement because of absences or visits home.
3. Continuous employment: They have to stay continuously employed for 6 years. Being unemployed for more than 60 days would disqualify many.
There are a bunch of other disqualifying factors which would exclude a lot of illegal immigrants from eventual permanent residence. A lot of people on the left want to see the bill killed for this reason. So those on the right should quit freaking; this senate bill isnt the gravy train it is made out to be.
Posted by: John at June 17, 2006 05:59 PM
John you must be from mexico or some kind of Red? look at the history, but you guys never care about that do you? nothing will stop the third world's people from coming here by the millions so stop with the political bull for mexico city and Red China, oh yes I understand now that this non nation/GOVERNMENT with big guns pointed at the Heads of all Americans, what the rulers in washington really want above all other things is, "MEXICO RULES AND LAWS", MEANING NO LAWS BUT THE LAW OF THE GUNS OF THE DRUG DEALERS. the future of the people of this nation is mass death by its own so called government.
Posted by: Fred Dawes at June 18, 2006 01:41 AM
"There are a bunch of other disqualifying factors which would exclude a lot of illegal immigrants from eventual permanent residence."
And they will ALL be challenged in court, just as disqualifications were under the 1986 amnesty and others that followed. One was recently settled when the US government simply gave up after fighting for years. The only safe way to keep this from happening is to decide up front: No amnesty, period.
Posted by: D Flinchum at June 18, 2006 12:03 PM
"John you must be from mexico or some kind of Red?"
The people on the right really dont like facts do they? I state facts about the senate bill, you respond by saying I was either mexican or communist. Your namecalling just shows you have no facts to back your side of the arguement. The majority of Americans agree with an "earned legalization" approach. Meaning the majority of Americans are either Mexican or Communist. At least thats what Fred thinks.
Posted by: John at June 18, 2006 03:44 PM
John has apparently never heard of document fraud and thinks that people never lie.
Thake that six year work requirement. If you claim to have been a day laborer working off-the-books -to use a very plausible scenario- you only have to provide an affidavit from a day labor center or even your own declaration to "prove" employment.
Posted by: perroazul del norte at June 18, 2006 07:46 PM
john be a good left over! you will win and the USA Will be dead soon, after that you can join the "al-qeade", guys and hunt down american and cut heads off for mexico and bin laden, hillary will help you!
john be good don't start mass murder yet wait and hillary will help you like she did at waco!
john facts can be used in many ways, and john i hate the right wing as much as the left wing-nuts
USA All the way down with evil the mexican way!
but have fun doing this the person who put up this site is great thank you. the checks in the mail.
Posted by: Fred Dawes at June 18, 2006 10:20 PM
Illegals are Illegals and they should ALL be sent back. Forget this political correct nonsense that is permeated our society. They are here breaking our laws, sucking our resources and flaunting it. Enough is enough send them all back.
Posted by: Cindy at August 15, 2006 04:12 PM
